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Prostate cancer, gleason score, biopsy, conventional, non conventional?

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Each of these therapies has a risk/reward scenario. Keep in mind that there is a long and growing list of evidence-based, non-toxic therapies to treat early prostate cancer.

Dear Cancer Coach- I was wondering about natural/not so invasive treatment options for a diagnosis
of prostate cancer I received in April of this year. I was diagnosed with 3+3
gleason scale 1st stage cancer after a biopsy revealed 3 of ten positive
samples in a biopsy of my prostate.

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My question is how long can I take to source out and explore
“alternative to surgery or radiation” treatments? I was told in my second
opinion that prostate cancer is the single most over diagnosed disease in men in Canada. That being said the reason they found it in the first place is due to
a dysfunctional water works system including a sitting on a golf ball feeling, so I am going to assume that I do have a relatively serious problem.

I have found that Saw Palmetto seems to have a positive effect and that
coffee has a negative one. A couple of other items that may be of interest
are that I found there are some things my body won’t tolerate these days.
They would be dairy products, caffeine, chocolate. Water seems to go right on
through me as well. I thought if you were keeping a data base you may be
interested in some of the symtoms.

Regards,
John


Hi John-

I am sorry to read of your prostate cancer diagnosis. I will address your questions below.

“how long can I take to source out and explore”alternative to surgery or radiation treatments?”

The answer is that this is up to you. I say this because a) only you can weigh your dysfunctional water works and the “golf ball” you feel you are sitting on and compare this to learning about and comparing the risk/reward of several different therapies.

Possible therapies for the early stage prostate cancer patient are:

  • Watchful waiting or active surveillance.
  • Surgery.
  • Radiation therapy.
  • Cryotherapy (cryosurgery)
  • Hormone therapy.
  • Chemotherapy.
  • Vaccine treatment.
  • Bone-directed treatment.

Each of these therapies has a risk/reward scenario. Keep in mind that there is a long and growing list of evidence-based, non-toxic therapies to treat your early prostate cancer.

Let me know what you think.

David Emerson

  • Cancer Survivor
  • Cancer Coach
  • Director PeopleBeatingCancer

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demerson says 10 years ago

Hi John-

I think that you are the same John at allrite heating that asked about DCA. I will research your PCa questions below in addition to using your PCa specifics to question the alternative cancer forum about DCA. Today is the 4th of july/Independence Day so I will only be able to leave you several short term ideas and then take a couple of days to address your other questions.

1) the short answer to"My question is how long can I take to source out and explore "alternative to surgery or radiation" treatments" is long enough for me to take a couple of days to get back to you with real options. Prostate cancer is over  diagnosed and over treated here in the states as well.

2) Further, it's not a matter of all one or the other- integrative cancer therapy, in your case, can mean a little conventional, some anti prostate cancer supplementation, etc.

3) yes, thanks for the symptoms- as I asked about in my previous email, I need specifics in order to conduct research-

Please continue taking saw palmetto. Please read the links below and consider curcumin, and green tea- these are supplements that I myself take daily and have many documented positive effects including anti cancer effects.

Start by reading the 4 studies/articles linked below. The info contained in these documents will begin your prostate cancer education and give me a couple of days to do more specific research.

1) http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/healthy-lifestyle-triggers-genetic-changes-study

2) http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/blog/prostate-cancer-curcumin-curbs-metastases-study-shows

3) http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/blog/green-tea-reduced-inflammation-may-inhibit-prostate-cancer-tumor-growth-research-finds

I came across this study yesterday- supplementation overlapping the info above- http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/805549

David Emerson
 

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    demerson says 10 years ago

    Hi John-

    Sorry for the wait. It's been a busy couple of days. First of all, I found a website pertaining to DCA- the site looks legit though you can never be sure on the Internet- http://thedcasite.com/-
    Second of all, I will break down your questions.

    1) "I was diagnosed with 3+3 gleason scale 1st stage cancer after a biopsy revealed 3 of ten positive samples. My question is how long can I take to source out and explore "alternative to surgery or radiation" treatments?

    I found the wikipedia explanation of the Gleason Grading System to be helpful in understanding your PCa diagnosis- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleason_Grading_System

    It is clear that you have prostate cancer- therefore you are not facing "over diagnosis" but "over treatment." In other words, it is believed that most men over 60 have prostate cancer in their prostates (this book is a excellent explanation of this concept-http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/should-i-be-tested-cancer-maybe-not-and-heres-why) but most of this PCa cancer grows slowly never causing problems for men. The question for you is how much treatment to undergo? All PCa treatments will have side effects, many dramatically effecting your quality of life.  

    2) "That being daid the reason they found it in the first place is due to a dysfunctional water works system including a sitting on a golf ball feeling, so I am going to assume that I do have a relatively serious problem." It is possible that you have BHP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benign_prostatic_hyperplasia) which may be related to your PCa or not. Your urologist should determine this. You are correct in that nutritional supplements such as Saw Palmetto, Beta Prostate, etc- both conventional and non conventional therapies- https://www.google.com/search?q=bhp+therapy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    https://www.google.com/search?q=beta+prostate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    Not knowing much about PCa therapies available in Canada, what is provided, paid for, how long you have to wait, etc. my opinion (I am not a professional- just a long term cancer survivor who has studied cancer for over 10 years now) is that you carefully and fully read the studies linked below and do everything discussed. In other words, Dean Ornish proves that lifestyle changes the genetic expression of PCa. And this lifestyle in addition to curcumin and green tea extract may effect your therapy decision making. Please get tested, both your Gleason score and PSA, regularly and discuss your situation with your urologist.

    Basically, this is a "watch and wait" approach with non conventional therapies while you watch and wait. Further testing will make your therapy decision clearer to you I think.

    Does this make sense? Do you have any questions? Thanks and hang in there- please stay in touch.

    David Emerson
     

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